POOL LINER USAGE WHILE MOORED

[Miker]

DOLPHIN :

If you are talking about an article which appeared in Sydney Afloat ( still going ? ) , I would love to have read it . sailing boats are a visual positive for their ascetic lines and wonderful engineering they inhabit . To here that there was some conjecture regarding them being moored in Manly Cove ( near Sydney Ferries ?? ) is just plain nonsense . Considering the size of our waterways in Australia , I'd love to know how much damage ( if any , considering ) is done to the environment , or is it just a matter of other forces such as ratepayers in Manly , wanting to push their property values up !!! . Though having sailing boats moored in my surrounds would pleasing ( Broken Hill lol ) and I couldn't see how they would disturb property value anywhere ....

If it's the case of Greenies wanting a bit of " Intellectual Airtime " then they should just consider the form by which our Nation was born , through Sailing .....

Brad
DESIREMK1

Brad, the article in Afloat was repeated in the Manly Daily too. They weren't talking about Manly Cove, but Little Manly Cove, Spring Cove and Quarantine Beach around the corner to the east. They are worked about the sea grasses. Last time I anchored at Quarantine, the bottom was all sand, no grass to be seen.

I feel the same about the so called Greenies, I truly believe in conserving resources and nature and all, but not at the expense they would put on it. As soon as you start on the with logic, they're at a complete loss.

[DESIREMK1]

Hi Miker ,

There are many people that have a love of " The Great Outdoors " , and would be interested in preserving the environment in which they partake their interest in life . Though when some wacker uses the Environmental cause as a badge of honor and chains themselves to a tree wearing nothing but a piece of bark or leaf while seeking media attention ( for themselves ?? ) then that becomes self promoting and nothing to do with their stated cause ( Bob Brown comes to mind ) .

Back in 1992-98 , it disturbed me to see the build up of Blue Green algae and other rubbish around Sackville on the Hawkesbury , which I had to idle my Families BB Chev Skiboat through countless times . " There is much recreational grounds to be enjoyed in Australia " , so if a Greenie was serious about the environment , let them ride bicycles to work , and they when go on holidays .

Largely Sailing is an environmental pursuit that has very low emissions , and should be noted as such by organizations that seem intent in taking our priveledge of enjoying our lives and recreational pursuits away from the masses .

It seems 2% of our society are intent in ruling the 98% that want to enjoy environmental based passions such as Sailing . Long live the freedom to Sail ....

Brad
DESIREMK1

[RodM]

A pool liner would be almost impossible to fit onto a keeled boat - ask anyone who's had the pleasure of pulling a spinaker out of the water. A fitted boat liner would also be b***** difficult. Not an option if your boat is used frequently, and if used rarely, you'd still need regular Chlorine testing, just like in a backyard pool.

There are two electric antifoul systems. One uses copper anodes to create a 'cloud' of copper ions round the hulll - expensive set up, requires shore power, and apparently only works in fairly still water The other is an ultrasonic system as sold by Jaycar electronics and possibly others, probably @ $600+ for a Top Hat, and requires a good solar/batteery system to run it. Opinions vary re effectiveness, and this system doesn't provide any protection for a prop shaft/prop or OBM - and possible also not for the rudder as all these bits are not rigidly mounted.

In the end you'll still need to pull your hull out every couple of years, and its a goood opportunity to check anodes, thru hull fittings, that reef you bounced off, and the waterlogged rudder - so given the costs etc, better to just KISS as suggested, buy up some wet & dry & antifoul, and severy two years spend a weekend getting down and dirty with your boat...

[Dolphin]

The boat bag is quite easy to use.
It has a number of 100mm dia long foam blocks in the top, a couple of lead weights in the bottom and lies in the water downstream of the mooring. There are two ropes trailing from the end of the floats on the surface. It is made of Polytarp material.
All you do is get the crew to open the end and drive the boat in like posting a letter in an envelope. You just pull the boat onto the bag and attach the boat to the mooring. Then grab the two ropes at the back of the bag and just pull it up out of the water onto the transom. Drop the chlorine tablet in and let it sit there till next week. Any marine growth that was in the water is killed by the chlorine and doesn;t pose a threat, If it rains the rainwater runs into the bag and further dilutes the salt water.
You don't need antifouling.
Would you rather have a bit of chlorine in the air or deal with toxic waste that is washed off your boat and has to be taken to a special land fill tip?

If you were a real greenie you wouldn't slip your boat and kill all those organisms, would you?

[DESIREMK1]

Although it was around 1992 , when I learnt to sail with the CYC Sydney , I seem remember a near effortless exacution of taking the J24 training boat from the Boat Bag and reinstalling the sailboat within the boat bag by 2-3 people on board once the day was over . The J24 and Top Hat 25 would have similar dimension would they not , even down to the the keel ( J24 Swing Keeler ?? ) ...

It would be interesting to find out what the CYC Sydney thought of their boat bags ( new at the time ) , and if they consider them a worthwhile alternative . It would also be worthy of finding out if they are still in use with their training fleet ....

Furthermore , I have read that article about the The Waterways Authority prohibiting moorings to be used in the future , kind makes you wonder who's agenda are they running with , obviously not the publics ....

Brad
DESIREMK1