Retrofitting a diesel

Re: Retrofitting a diesel

Postby 8philip8 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:55 pm

any thing BMW cost a arm or a leg, But they are good
how many spare body part have you got :oops:
hahaha
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Re: Retrofitting a diesel

Postby Dolphin » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:16 pm

Yairs,
Ok bear you can start it with one hand, my wife can start my engine with ONE finger? (if batteries are ok).

I agree Phillip.
The mixing elbow (exhaust manifold) for a Hatz (BMW) two years ago was $874.95. and lasts 5 years. It has an auto decompression lever because you've only got one arm to start the diesel because it cost you the other one to buy the spares! :lol:

If you're just looking for a badge,fine, but my engine pulls like a tractor and its got 2 airbags! :o I know I''ve overcapitalised but it wasn't a boat without an engine. When I sell it I'll put it on ebay as an engine and the boat comes with it. :lol:
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Re: Retrofitting a diesel

Postby rob.lovelace » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:15 am

Looking at the pictures none of the examples given have the prop behind the rudder. Are all of these retro fitted? The drawings I've looked at show the prop behind the rudder. If that's the case it doesn't put the prop any deeper than the outboard in the well, and low speed manoeuvering will be no different. So that takes away a couple of the pluses I had in mind
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Re: Retrofitting a diesel

Postby bearmcnally » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:04 am

Hi Guys

I'll will never understand why we try and modify a proven design ? Yes the prop behind the rudder might do a little cavitation when trying to run the yacht at 20 knts under motor :D ,but Top Hat was not designed to do that .When these top little yachts were designed some 40 years ago the auxiliary , the dictionary states :) (1.secondary or supplementary 2.supporting ,adj accessory,aiding)back in the good old days we sailed these boats everywhere well I do ! and the engine was used to get you out of trouble ? Well mine seems to get me into trouble :lol: I still believe inboards are better but behind the keel and low down where they were designed to be ? .

If you want motor fast why not buy a Macgregor :lol:

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Re: Retrofitting a diesel

Postby Dolphin » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:15 pm

The offset design is installed by the manufactrer. There is no sign of any previous gland down low in the bilge. Felicite also has an access hatch cut in the forward section of the cockpit to allow access to the gland and the wheel steering. Easy. If I remember I will take a photo of the engine bay on the boat in the next few days.
The offset design allows easy cleaning of the prop. With a snorkel you can lay flat on the water and scrub away.
I fitted the 2nd rudder to allow low speed steering like an outboard. The setup works well, I used it most of the time motor sailing to the Keppels. In winter it is either blowing hard or calm. So most of the traveling was done in light winds.
I hope that helps Rob.
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Re: Retrofitting a diesel

Postby bearmcnally » Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:33 pm

Hi Guys

Roughly worked out the difference in height of long shaft outboard and the 'retrofitted inboard ' most properly about 150mm difference ,but ? the retrofitted inboard is further under the yacht " yet an outboard in a well might be at the same height . Disadvantage ? hole in the cockpit floor ! NOTE: position of preferred prop by Illingworth and Primrose :D




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Re: Retrofitting a diesel

Postby rob.lovelace » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:35 am

Yeah the outboard in the well is about the same as the retro-fit and the big hole allows the cockpit to drain super fast from poop. :idea: Whilst coming throgh the rip last Christmas the outboard prop was clear of the water and howling when she was coming off the back of some waves.
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Re: Retrofitting a diesel

Postby Dolphin » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:01 pm

Love it Rob !!

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Re: Retrofitting a diesel

Postby karl010203 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:30 pm

ha ha :D
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Re: Retrofitting a diesel

Postby Phillip » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:05 pm

Hi All,

Well I've had my prop clear of the water and it makes a hell of a sound :o !

But you cannot beat an inboard for cruising :D :D :D

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