Its very quiet!

Re: Its very quiet!

Postby karl010203 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:03 pm

Hey Shaun,

Keep up with the progress... furlers are the way to go!

Real sailors dont use motors either... maybe you could remove yours in order to remain a purist!

and then the wiring, gps, fridge... :roll:

Ha ha

On a more serious note you have to admire Lin and Larry Pardey... refreshingly traditional

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Re: Its very quiet!

Postby bearmcnally » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:23 pm

Hi Greg


I'll get out my dry bean bags and have a think and get back to you :D




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Re: Its very quiet!

Postby Miker » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:27 am

You know, this discussion is a fantastic example of how diverse a bunch Top Hat owners are. Perhaps just like the discussion we had at the first Sailaway at the Basin. Of the five Top Hats that stayed overnight, all of them were completely differently set up both internally and externally.

For me, I like the furler and whilst it's not the best shape when you need to partly furl it, it does still help you keep a balance in a big blow. For me, I'm usually only two up, which means every part of the boat must be simple, easy and no stress to work. Hanking sails would be detrimental to my relaxation requirements while sailing. Heavens, I don't even like the fold up sail covers for the main, hence my installation of a lazy bag.... mmmm.... lazy, has a good note to it, and for me (yes, I know it's a repetitive thing I have) it's what sailing is all about, being lazy and relaxing and getting rid of the stress of living in a big city.

Now, back to the perfect pocket cruiser.... I do like the Swanson 28, always have, but they still command a price! I also like the Compass 28, but that's just me thinking inside my current financial situation. I bought the Top Hat after finding this site, then finding the articles about the two voyages made by two generations of Mitchells. I thought, if they can sail one around the world, I can sail one around here with complete relative safety.

If money wasn't the issue, I'd have this.... Which is currently owned by an aquaintance of mine and moored off the Coral Sea resort in Airlie Beach. Note the main and mizzen furling system.... not a fast boat, or an old boat, but certainly very liveable.

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What about another question....

If you had less than say $15k all up, needed to be able to cook, sleep and ablute and you needed to go coastal, what would you buy.
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Re: Its very quiet!

Postby storm petrel » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:05 pm

How about going timber? Here is a mate's yacht, Wynstay. Circa 1950, 28', 6 tonne and solid as...I think he paid about $20k for her. Mind you, he is retired and has the time needed to maintain her. For under 20K you can't beat a Tophat can you?

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Re: Its very quiet!

Postby Phillip » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:15 pm

Thanks Karl, I like your post...

karl010203 wrote:Real sailors don't use motors either...


Saturday week last I sailed SEAKA across the Camden Haven bar and 1nm up to my mooring, against an outgoing tide, so do I qualify as one of your real sailors? :D .

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Re: Its very quiet!

Postby bearmcnally » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:47 pm

Hi Guys


You certainly do Phil and you have a MkI also,the prettiest Top Hats of all. I never used my diesel ,sailed everywhere even sailed onto the slips.But when I did need to use the dam thing it wouldn't go .Thats why I had to truck Egret II up the F3 to Lake Macquarie.(Porta slip $700 )Pulled it out took it to a mechanic and $2700 later put back in Egret II .The machanic did say you should run diesels under load to blow all the gunk out and don't leave them idling on the mooring as this will cause carbon build up and injector and other wear and tear problems.Will be using the iron sail this summer so it doesn't play up again.


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Re: Its very quiet!

Postby karl010203 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:34 am

Phil - yes you certainly qualify!!! Good Work.

Bear - I have been told the same before that diesels need to work under load for a long life... chugging around is not healthy.
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Re: Its very quiet!

Postby Shaun » Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:39 am

Karl, This is a good thread you started here, blew away some of the cobwebs & got the discussion board happening again, cheers. btw i am trying to embrace progress....bought a laptop last weekend & one of those external hard drive things about the size of a sao biscuit 320GB, to transfer the old rubbish off the old desktop which had a total hard drive size of 30 or 40GB!, probably hung onto that old dinosaur a little too long. And talking about diesels, got the Arona diesel in Blue Moon working well, changed one of the engine mounts(was the most accesible one to change, & there was a spare onboard, gotta have a lucky break sometimes! :D ), just need to clean the prop now & give her a good run :D , oh & muck around with a different gasket on the water pump, the paper one i put in is evidently to thick & not drawing water in somehow.
For under $15k i dont think it would be possible to beat a Top Hat?
Under $20k...anyone sailed a Manitou 32? they look the business & interesting too..centre cockpit, some rigged as ketch.
Anyway i hope this fiesty spirit lasts until the Regatta for those that can attend it, & Denis & I may get some half decent competition in the Saturday race.
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ps, fingers crossed, hoping to have finished the poop deck construction on the junk-rigged Blue Moon by the 2011 summer Regatta.
Greg 8-) , you make some believable points about the furler, but im not sold.
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Re: Its very quiet!

Postby Dolphin » Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:54 am

Shaun, You struck me as a very capable fellow when I met you and I'm sure you'll build a very fine Poop deck. Of course up on the lake every deck is a poop deck with those "bloody cormorants". As is every seat, sail cover or pushpit.
I've used flags and they seem to be the best. I've used humming line and that is a pest putting it on and off. I notice that John Lewis used those rotating thingoes. Has any else had success with bird scarers? I'm getting rid of the flags, as they are wearing out and I'm thinking of using netting. What has everyone else had success with?
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Re: Its very quiet!

Postby karl010203 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:42 pm

Shaun I am with you...

I often see the ad's for the Manitou 32 on Yachthub and the like and wonder what is wrong with them.

There is a tidy one that has been advertised in the local area for sometime for $30k (most likely negiotable) and very tidy... which is not unusual... got to wonder why so cheap for something that size?

I wonder if it is the centre cockpit that distracts from the price, but imagine they would probably sail ok, given the full keel, high ballast ratio...

Anyone ever sailed one?
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