Head sail sheeting

Head sail sheeting

Postby azzura » Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:40 pm

Hi all

looking for ideas on the best way to run the headsail sheets. Mine have always been sheeted between the shrouds as the rpevious owner said she pointed higher that way . But I notice from the gallery photos many have their sheest out side of the shrouds ?

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Re: Head sail sheeting

Postby Marinka » Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:50 pm

Hi my expereince in a variey of boats is outside the shrouds. give it a go. Cheers Peter
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Re: Head sail sheeting

Postby storm petrel » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:02 pm

I lead my sheets outside because my No.2 overlaps the spreaders anyway. I can see that with a smaller headsail leading the sheets between the shrouds would allow the boat to point a little higher but don't you have to relead them when you come off the wind to prevent them fouling the outer shroud?

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Re: Head sail sheeting

Postby azzura » Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:14 pm

Hi and thanks for the info so far ..the sheets run from the winches through the deck cars and between the shrouds to the clew .The inner and outers are both sleeved with plastic tubing to allow the sheets to run between the without fouling.Still any headsail that overlaps drags through them and no doubt will cause some wear over time .....Just not sure about that !
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Re: Head sail sheeting

Postby storm petrel » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:56 pm

Hi,

Even with the sheets led outside the shrouds I can sheet my No.2 tight enough to pull it onto the end of the spreaders, so I do not think there would be any advantage in leading the sheets any further inboard because I still have to keep the sail off the spreader to keep its shape. I suspect sheeting it from further inboard and sheeting it hard up to the spreader would leave too much draft in the headsail. (This however, only applies to large headsails.)

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Re: Head sail sheeting

Postby Phillip » Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:07 pm

Shaun,

Your problems with catching sheets can be solved this way :D

Always lead your sheets outside the shrouds.

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Re: Head sail sheeting

Postby robf » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:26 pm

Hi all

To answer Shaun's query about headsail sheeting that doesn't catch on the shrouds - I've been using a simple loop through the clew with the tails of the single length of sheet rope for both sheets going through the loop and back to the deck cars. In 2 years the arrangement has not slipped, and now rarely catches on the shrouds, which is much better for the short-handed racing that I do with the Pittwater Sailors once a month. Hope this helps!

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Re: Head sail sheeting

Postby Shaun » Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:28 pm

Thanks Phil & Rob, :D

ok so with the bowline, it should be tied left-handed for the port sheet, & right-handed for the std sheet, as also shown in "The riggers apprentice" by Brion Toss.

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L & R handed bowlines to clew
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Rob, the "knot" you describe sounds like a Larks Head aka Cow Hitch :arrow: http://www.animatedknots.com/girth/inde ... dknots.com ,these seem quite popular, but require 1 long jib sheet & centred at the clew, instead of a port & std separate sheet, probably ideal for a furler that wont be changed often if at all, but would maybe be a nuisance on a hanked on sail?? if you are using the same sheets for different headsails.


On Blue moon i have this set-up for the jib sheets, but im at a complete loss how it works!! anyone know?

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Blue Moon's jib sheet to clew
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Could be some variation of this knot (the first one at top of page) :arrow: http://www.wayfarer-international.org/W ... sheet.html

I suppose im looking for a knot to replace the bowline(because i had one recently fail, that i spent a bit of time on to make sure i tied it correctly), doesnt snag on the shrouds & a knot that is easily removed from the clew to allow headsail changes, using the same sheets....

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Re: Head sail sheeting

Postby Shaun » Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:40 pm

I guess that sheet connection goes something like this :ugeek:

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Anyone have this set-up, or used something similar...any pro's/cons?

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ps, i always lead my sheets outside shrouds too.
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Re: Head sail sheeting

Postby robf » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:32 pm

You're right Shaun - it is probably the cow hitch - and yes - I have a furling headsail so never need to change the sail (makes things so much simpler when short-handed).

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