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Re: PC Jay - Two Week Sailing Adventure

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:50 pm
by saintpeter
I would give anything to have an aft/skeg-hung rudder. The steering on the standard Illingworth/Primrose design is the fundamental weak point of the TopHat.

Re: PC Jay - Two Week Sailing Adventure

PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:04 pm
by Phillip
How do you mean Saintpeter, I find I can turn mine on a dime, even at slow speed.

Re: PC Jay - Two Week Sailing Adventure

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:20 am
by Shaun
What a fantastic adventure Jakub, thanks for posting it, with pictures and video too!

I too have found the Mutton birds very friendly at The Broughton's, with birds flying into the mast and landing on the decks at night.

Jakub, I'm interested how you find the steering with your transom hung rudder downwind?, I think there would be less roll from side to side with the rudder further aft?
Cheers

Re: PC Jay - Two Week Sailing Adventure

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:28 pm
by Ianb
Wow Jacob! A really good story. It would make a great basis for an article in Cruising Helmsman. Shows how much fun and adventure can be had without being a gadzillion millionaire with a 50 ft modern yacht. They might even pay you for the article!

The other article I would love you to write is details of your fishing techniques. Clearly you are a wiz, and it would be most interesting to those of us who never manage to catch anything, even when the fish-finder/echo sounder is showing heaps of fish.

On the design issue of the stern mounted rudder, I think the gain in cockpit space would be benefit enough. However the other benefit could be less weather helm in a blow. Do you find this?

Re: PC Jay - Two Week Sailing Adventure

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:22 am
by Jakub76
Thanks for the enthusiastic replies.

As for the changed handling from the modifications I afraid I have not had the chance to compare with a stock TH. I can tell you though that I have very little steerage in reverse and weather helm is an issue especially in gusts on a broad reach. Is that the same with your stock THs?

Re: PC Jay - Two Week Sailing Adventure

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:02 pm
by Miker
Great story mate, really well done.

In relation to reverse steerage, yep, nothing doing really. Inboards get a little help from prop walk. I have a outboard on the stern bracket and can, if needed, turn the outboard to get really tight reverse steering. I actually towed my brothers speed boat into an L-shaped jetty at Akuna bay after he ran out of fuel. Must have looked a sight. 1982 Top Hat with 8hp Tohatsu towing a 20 foot Maxum with a 6 litre Mercruiser for 2km.....

Same with weather helm. Use the traveller when you can and spill a bit from the main, using the headsail to drive. Once the wind is up enough, it's all weather helm unless you reef, or go under headsail only. Up to 20 knots I can almost relieve the weather helm with traveller and vang, but after that......