Installing electric anchor winch

Installing electric anchor winch

Postby Troppo » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:15 pm

I was offered a used electric anchor winch, Southpacific 900 Mighty, and I decided to buy it. While bigger than recommended for a boat the size of a Top Hat, I need all the help I can get. Been tricky with the last couple of year's floods as even with moving Windchaser to 'safe areas', there are still challenges pulling up the anchor with increased water flow and washed-down sand burying the anchor chain. While the winch is not meant to pull the boat up to the anchor or break out the anchor, the way my muscles had been protesting, it should prove itself worth the money, so I expected.

[Edit: I am not suggesting what I did is best practice, just telling my story in case others may find it useful somehow.]

First, I was going to cut the anchor-well hatch in half, still have the back half in place but totally strengthen the front half and put the winch there. I even started shaping some hardwood. Then I took the hatch home to do some repair on it, finding it surprisingly thick and solid and I read (Precision Marine website) that fibreglass hatches that are 7mm or thicker are strong enough to handle a winch. Windchasers hatch was thicker than that. So I changed my plans.

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After hatch is off.
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I mounted the winch on an epoxied ply sheet on the hatch with epoxied ply 'washer's underneath. The well was not deep enough and I wanted to make it deeper. The problem was that a permanent drop down section would prevent me from getting up into the bow inside, where I needed to reach the bowspit bolting points. The addition had to be removable.

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Fabricating well extension.
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I cut the bottom out of the anchor well, glued on an epoxied wooden rim. Made a 35 cm deep well with no bottom out of ply. Put a rim around the top which would sit on the rim inside the anchor well. Four coats of epoxy on the inside where it would get more wear, three on the outside. Shaved a fraction off the floor section I cut from the anchor well and epoxied it to the bottom of my well-extension. Used fibreglass strips and epoxy fillet inside the extension.

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Hole cut in well, edge frame in place.
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Couldn't find a flush fitting drain for inside the well so used a standard plastic thru-fitting but the problem is that it sits slightly above whatever surface it is on and a few mils of water could sit there. Made a depression with ply and epoxy, fashioned so the fitting sat down in it and glued it on underneath. This means any water in the well can drain out and is not stopped by the lip of the fitting.



The well-extension slide down into the hole cut in the original anchor well and butyl mastic sealant on the contact surfaces will hopefully keep water from leaking into the interior but still allow, if needed, removing the insert. The lip is so that a little water dripping into the original section is kept away from the seal and it can flow around to the original drain which I left in.

A block of epoxied wood was glued to the side of the original well and a stainless steel rod was glued into it. This rod goes through the hatch and bolts it down. I think I should put in a second one to add strength but need to think about that more as it may not need it.

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New well in place, easily holds 10m chain, 50m nylon rope.
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With wiring, I calculated what size was needed and it was what was recommended by Southpacific so I was happy with my calculation. Some old wiring from its previous installation is so thin in comparison that I started to wonder if that was the reason the previous owner thought the winch was no good for his boat.

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New wiring is much thicker than old
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Under the hatch, I joined the winch's own wire onto the other wire using ring terminals and bolts, covered with insulating tape. This means if the winch ever needs to come off, I don't cut the wires just undo the bolts. The wiring runs down the port side of the boat - under the v-berth, under the sink, under the side seat and out the back under the steps to the battery which I have installed under the cockpit where the rudder tube comes up.

For control, I bought the hand-held switch on 5 metres of cable. This connects into a solenoid box and other switches can be installed if need be. The solenoid box is screwed up to the underneath of the cockpit floor along with a fuse. Rather than use a manual switch for the main power, I used a large solenoid switch I had lying around at home. This made it easier for me with wiring as to activate the switch, I could use thin wires and just run them to a simple switch which is just inside the cabin under the cockpit floor but reachable from the cockpit. I did have to add some three-core wire to the hand-held so I can comfortably reach right up to the bow. Spare bilge pump 3-core was exactly the right size.

I have used it about a dozen times since installing it. So far no major problems. The little switch I put in to turn the system on, a push-pull one, is good except when I first used it I pulled too hard and the knob popped off in my hand. That's fixed now. With the long cable, I can start pulling up the anchor, go back to the cockpit and motor up to the anchor if need be and go back up the front, all the time running the winch. While the winch should not be used for breaking out the anchor, I (cough cough) just pull the anchor right up and usually all I notice is a slight change in the motor noise as the extra load goes on then it speeds up as the anchor is free. Doesn't seem to be stressing but I will be using the boat motor (and anchor rode around main cleat) to break out the anchor if I think it is really buried.

I put a cleat beside the winch motor to run the rope around to the main cleat for being at anchor. However, I started just running the rope around the side of the motor to the main cleat. The side is smooth enough that I don't think there will be much chaff on the rope. Also there is only a small deflection from the bowroller to the winch motor and to the main cleat so not a huge pressure on the winch.

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Winch in place getting test run
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So far the winch has met my expectations. Not having had an electric winch before I don't have anything to compare this one to but already it has saved me heaps of effort.
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Re: Installing electric anchor winch

Postby Troppo » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:20 pm

More pics:

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From inside: removable anchor well extension
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New s/s hinges, epoxied and painted ply to help spread the pressure
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Wiring from winch is connected via ring terminals joined by bolts
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Re: Installing electric anchor winch

Postby Troppo » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:51 am

Update: I have broken my winch already. Only used it twenty or so times.

Up until I broke it, things seemed to be going well. I noticed the chain tended to jamb if it was twisted either coming or going but got that sorted after a few uses. The other problem was that it stopped being switchable to 'free-fall' and was only 'wind-down'. I had worked on the free fall mechanism when I had the unit apart so I assumed I had not repaired it properly. Apart from that, it was all good.

With the remote-on-cable that I installed, I could operate the winch from the cockpit and also at the bow. This meant I could easily motor up the anchor rode and pull in the anchor. Usually it was easy anyway. This was a world apart from previously when having to haul the anchor by hand against strong winds and tide. I would have to rev the motor to surge forward, slip into neutral, run forward, pull in the rode until my forward movement stopped and I was unable to bring in the rope, cleat it off, then go back to the motor and do it all again until the anchor was onboard.

There had been a question mark over whether the anchor-well hatch was strong enough for the winch. It has not broken or moved or even flexed that I can see, been solid, so that's good.

When I broke the winch, the calm anchorage I was in, at the mouth of the Fitzroy River, was in fact no longer calm and I decided to move rather than wait it out. As the afternoon passed, the wind had shifted so the mangrove island was no longer giving protection and the rising tide covered the mudbanks which had been stopping much of the waves.

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Quiet morning in paradise [paradise for sandflies]
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Getting choppy
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Wind was gusting to about 35 km/hr. Trying to motor up the anchor rode proved difficult as the bow was being pushed quickly to the sides and I was hard pressed to get her pointing right. The channel is only about 40 metres wide between mudbanks so not too much room to manoeuvre. When the bow swung quickly away to about 60 degrees I kept the winch going hoping that it would pull the bow around but not strain it. Unfortunately, I think the forces at that moment were too much for it. A moment later I had chain coming up, so only ten metres to go but then the chain started going out. Something had broken.

Racing to the bow, I pulled on the chain, the anchor was free of the bottom so only took a few seconds to get it up. Then I raced back to the cockpit as I was almost on a mudbank. Turned in time and set off for somewhere quieter.

When considering the event later, I realised I had been in a wind-against-tide situation. This meant that when I started moving forward against the wind, I was moving with the tidal current, the result being little or no flow over the rudder hence my problem trying to steer.

At home when I took the motor apart, I found the clutch which enabled free fall was broken.

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New and old
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It was afternoon when I emailed South Pacific Winches about a part, that same afternoon they sent me info and I made a payment, the next day the item was posted out to me. Excellent service.

I notice the new part is much more robust than the old one. However, I also noticed when I was looking closely at the sheet-of-parts, that my second-hand winch (which I bought from a bloke on the river here), was missing some bits. The missing bits have to do with the free fall system. I think when I put it together I will just have it in 'power out' mode as I was happy with the way that functioned and that will save me having to buy more parts when I am not sure exactly how they go in.

Overall, I am still happy with the winch. For solo cruising where tidal current and winds can make it hard to haul the anchor by hand, the winch provides a big safety factor I reckon. While I could have done without breaking it, backup service proved excellent. Now all I need to do is put all those bits and pieces together and not have any left over.

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Re: Installing electric anchor winch

Postby woodsy » Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:11 pm

That was well constructed.....the story I mean. I found it easy to understand what you did & I don't normally follow written instructions well.
Tough you had to repair it but a good outcome.
I considered a winch but decided I'll install a pawl behind the bow roller instead so it automatically locks down on the chain when I need a rest from hauling. Whitworths have stainless steel ones on special at the mo & they are cheap enough, even for me!
I took note of the yacht moorings when I was in 1770 earlier this year on the way out to Lady Musgrave on the ferry. Decided I will follow the ferry in & out!
Lady Musgrave & the general area was part of the reason I purchased my Top Hat. Hopefully in 2 years I will be cruising & diving there for an extended period.
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Re: Installing electric anchor winch

Postby Phillip » Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:02 pm

Have to watch the tide in 1770 Woodsy, I've even seen the ferry aground there!!!! :shock:
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Re: Installing electric anchor winch

Postby woodsy » Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:20 pm

Even though its a cat, looks like it would draw more than a Toppy! Should've measured when I swam under it but I was concentrating on the turtles, sharks, fish..................bikini girls.
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Re: Installing electric anchor winch

Postby Troppo » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:47 pm

Further update: Putting the winch back together, I broke the main bearing : (.

When I took the shaft out, I used a wooden dowel and hammer to tap it through the bearing which stayed in the main body of the winch. All good. Putting the pieces together, I did the light tapping to push the shaft through but the main bearing did not cooperate, sticking to the shaft and popping out from where it is supposed to sit. On about the third time of trying to avoid dislodging the bearing, I damaged the ball-bearing race (I was using a screwdriver by now to try and get it back from where it had moved to :oops: ).

Ordered another bearing, only about $11 plus postage. Trying to work out why the bearing was binding on the shaft, I noticed that it was on the shaft where the key hole was that it grabbed. Using wet and dry 240 grit, I focused on the metal around the lip of the key hole. After a bit, the shaft was able to move through the old bearing. That was one problem solved. Pity I did not realise before I damaged the bearing that the shaft was needing some attention.

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A slight raised edge on the lip prevented the shaft from easily going through the bearing. Pic after sanding.
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Putting the winch together was a snap once I had the new bearing (and the shaft was smoothed). Actually, that's a lie. Took some fiddling. I had to dismantle my work a few times as I would get to a point where there was not the right access for replacing the next part. Needed to dismantle and try another order to get all the parts in properly. Once all together, I tested its operation. With all new grease, seemed to run smoothly enough. After screwing on the back, with a fresh gasket of sealant applied, I tested its operation again. Just making sure. Ready to go back to Windchaser. Hippee!
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Re: Installing electric anchor winch

Postby Ianb » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:23 am

Standard engineering practice when you have gone to the trouble of stripping and re-assembling a machine like that, is to replace the bearing anyway. So you did the right thing in the end.
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Re: Installing electric anchor winch

Postby Troppo » Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:16 pm

Thank you Ian!

I feel better now.

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Re: Installing electric anchor winch

Postby rob.lovelace » Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:17 pm

I'm suprised the lid hasn't come adrift at the hinges Troppo, but it seems to have proven it's strength. I've been thinking of the well extension myself and appreciate the photos. I'd like to be able to stow the anchor incase I need to deploy the sea anchor, but unfortunately it won't fit in the well. I was amazed at the windlass that mark zero in Cooktown had on it, it looked like he got it of a ship.
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