Comments on purchase please
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:46 pmFrom: whitsundaysun (Original Message) Sent: 27/05/2003 11:31 PM
Hello All
Having owned a Farr 75 for 5 years and been boatless for about 10years I am about to purchase a TopHat. After extensive looking they look a great boat and perfect for my needs.
I am looking at an 83 Mk11 with Buho (spelling) diesel inboard. The boat is probably best decribed as tidy. Rigging is 5 yrs old, motor 500 hrs, needs slipping and anti-foul. Quite a few extras.
As these boats seem to be rare (with inboard) can anyone give me some pointers and any prices they have seen similar sold for?
thanks
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From: John Sent: 28/05/2003 11:54 PM
When I bought mine, i also looked at lots of diesels as this would have been my 1st choice.
I found ALL the ones i looked at either needed maintenance or apparently(according to the mechs. i had check them) were close to it due to their age/use.
I was also estimated $3000 to $5000 for a proper rebuild of a small diesel.
I went for a mark II with outboard (in well) because even if it died... i could (worst case) throw it away and buy a new one with warranty for around $2000
I still want a diesel but will wait till i can afford a newer yatch and/or a bill to completely overhaul it so it is essentially 'as new'.
Just my 2.2c
John
http://www.childassessment.com.au/tophat
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From: whitsundaysun Sent: 29/05/2003 3:18 PM
Thanks John
Reason I am looking at inboard is the exctra space in seating area, found he outboard in well too a bit of space. Maybe I can be told differently by TH owners. How many people with outboard mounted can you comfortably seat.
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From: John Sent: 30/05/2003 12:22 AM
What you say is absolutely correct... you do lose some space.
My experience though (i took mine out of the well for a while and put it on the transom) was that even with this extra space behind the tiller, my family/guests still lent back on the pushpit(?sp) and put their feet up on the seat..... so I put it back in the well for convenience and they do just the same.
Having said that ... I think a diesel in good or reconditioned condition is still a 'nicer' option, just one i couldnt get to at the time.
In sydney ... my observations are that 21k to 24k would get a late mk3 with a diesel..... with essentially NO work to be done. It would have to be absolutely sensational to get anywhere near 27k in my opinion.
regards
John
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From: Thehood66 Sent: 30/05/2003 4:30 AM
Hi John. We have a Mk 1 ( "Evangelia" ) with a "Nanni" 10.5 hp diesel. Have just had it overhauled <injectors,water/gas mixer, water pump and engine mounts. Came to just under $1000.00 but she now runs sweet. Good luck with your mk II .
Regards, Cameron
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From: geoff Sent: 30/05/2003 6:16 AM
Have a look at trader boat they will give you a ball park figure. Around
Victoria 25K is what you would pay for a good straight boat with inboard
,where as around Sydney or up North you can pick the same boat up a few
thousand cheaper
Hello All
Having owned a Farr 75 for 5 years and been boatless for about 10years I am about to purchase a TopHat. After extensive looking they look a great boat and perfect for my needs.
I am looking at an 83 Mk11 with Buho (spelling) diesel inboard. The boat is probably best decribed as tidy. Rigging is 5 yrs old, motor 500 hrs, needs slipping and anti-foul. Quite a few extras.
As these boats seem to be rare (with inboard) can anyone give me some pointers and any prices they have seen similar sold for?
thanks
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From: John Sent: 28/05/2003 11:54 PM
When I bought mine, i also looked at lots of diesels as this would have been my 1st choice.
I found ALL the ones i looked at either needed maintenance or apparently(according to the mechs. i had check them) were close to it due to their age/use.
I was also estimated $3000 to $5000 for a proper rebuild of a small diesel.
I went for a mark II with outboard (in well) because even if it died... i could (worst case) throw it away and buy a new one with warranty for around $2000
I still want a diesel but will wait till i can afford a newer yatch and/or a bill to completely overhaul it so it is essentially 'as new'.
Just my 2.2c
John
http://www.childassessment.com.au/tophat
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From: whitsundaysun Sent: 29/05/2003 3:18 PM
Thanks John
Reason I am looking at inboard is the exctra space in seating area, found he outboard in well too a bit of space. Maybe I can be told differently by TH owners. How many people with outboard mounted can you comfortably seat.
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From: John Sent: 30/05/2003 12:22 AM
What you say is absolutely correct... you do lose some space.
My experience though (i took mine out of the well for a while and put it on the transom) was that even with this extra space behind the tiller, my family/guests still lent back on the pushpit(?sp) and put their feet up on the seat..... so I put it back in the well for convenience and they do just the same.
Having said that ... I think a diesel in good or reconditioned condition is still a 'nicer' option, just one i couldnt get to at the time.
In sydney ... my observations are that 21k to 24k would get a late mk3 with a diesel..... with essentially NO work to be done. It would have to be absolutely sensational to get anywhere near 27k in my opinion.
regards
John
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From: Thehood66 Sent: 30/05/2003 4:30 AM
Hi John. We have a Mk 1 ( "Evangelia" ) with a "Nanni" 10.5 hp diesel. Have just had it overhauled <injectors,water/gas mixer, water pump and engine mounts. Came to just under $1000.00 but she now runs sweet. Good luck with your mk II .
Regards, Cameron
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From: geoff Sent: 30/05/2003 6:16 AM
Have a look at trader boat they will give you a ball park figure. Around
Victoria 25K is what you would pay for a good straight boat with inboard
,where as around Sydney or up North you can pick the same boat up a few
thousand cheaper