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HIN number
Posted:
Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:50 pm
by Brett2016
AUWWA112871AL2 This is the HIN of the Top Hat I am looking at. Can anybody tell me any information what so ever for this number? Would be greatly appreciated.
Re: HIN number
Posted:
Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:12 pm
by dism
Can check if boat stolen/money owing on it at
https://transact.ppsr.gov.au/ppsr/SearchForWatercraft?v=Search&si=1Otherwise what's its name and the experienced on here should know it
Re: HIN number
Posted:
Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:32 pm
by bearmcnally
Brett
Re : HIN It's an Australian registered vessel number
Cheers Bear
Re: HIN number
Posted:
Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:14 pm
by RodM
Hull Identification Number. They've only been around for 20 or so years, well after all Top Hats had been made. To get one, you only had to walk into roads and marine or whatever they were called at various times, hand 'em $10 and fill out a form. Mainly useful for small sports boats where there are 100 of the same colour, as Bear said, to see if it has been listed as stolen. There's meant to be two copies of the number, one in the outside, usually near the transom, and one more hidden away, possibly on the inside of a cockpit locker etc.
Re: HIN number
Posted:
Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:57 pm
by Brett2016
It has been in the family for some time. A Mark 1, was hoping to find more info. The name is "San Felico". When I see the current owners in a few weeks time I hope to get more info. I think by the number it may be a 1971 model?
Re: HIN number
Posted:
Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:45 am
by bearmcnally
Hi Rod
I wish it was that easy to get a HIN , when my late Fathers Swanson was passed onto me she had no HIN . I had to prove to maritme that the boat wasn't stolen ? As we built her as a hull and deck and no documentation existed of ownership after 32 years this wasn't that easy ! Even though she was registered to the same owner for 32 years moored at the same location and mooring number and registered to the same address it didn't matter to maritime.I had to prove that I was who I was ? and literally jumped through hoops to convince them I was who I was or am
To cut along story short apart from digging the old man up and taking him to maritime to show them it was not an easy task . Oh the reason being , the yacht wasn't part of the estate it was a verbal agreement between my mother and my father so even a statutory declaration from my mother and death certificate and a copy of the probate didn't help .It took a phone call to the Head office in Sydney to over rule the lake Mac Computer . Talk about "There's a hole in the bucket '
Cheers Bear
Ps She has one now ,one one rear end , and the other hidden up under the front bunk .Which the location is documented with maritime
PPS my late Father was a lawyer
Re: HIN number
Posted:
Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:30 am
by RodM
Sounds like a painful experience Bear, not the sort of thing you need after the old man's passed. Must have been those pesky Commisars from the NSW State. I bought an Albin Vega a couple of years ago, it was sitting in Brisbane River on the Pilings, motor seized. It'd just arrived in Oz after two year trip out from Sweden. I purchased it via email contact with owners but did have the half page import doc (one liner saying Australian businesses could deal with this vessel), Swediesh rego papers (could have been a dentist bill really) and a scanned receipt. Walked into the Maritime office in Manly (Qld) and the nice lady Gave me a HIN. Maybe I should have bought a lotto ticket!
Re: HIN number
Posted:
Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:50 pm
by Miker
Re: HIN number
Posted:
Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:02 pm
by lockie
RodM wrote:Hull Identification Number. They've only been around for 20 or so years, well after all Top Hats had been made.
More like 40 years - my 1976 Compass 28 has a HIN.
Cheers, Graeme
Re: HIN number
Posted:
Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:28 pm
by bearmcnally
When Jilpanger was sold no HIN 1976 ? just sign the transfer of ownership and MSB was happy. Our Swanson 32 Jia was the same 1982 ,I still think it,s a tax
Use of the vessel as security for a mortgage
Many financial institutions, such as banks and finance companies, require a vessel to be registered before they will lend money using the vessel as security.
Mike , I couldn't imagine banks doing this these days
Cheers Bear