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lost image can someone find for me?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:58 pm
by rob.lovelace
I posted an image of a zero or mk1 with a rudder modification where they had built a fin hung rudder aft of the keel.
this was ages ago and I can't find it. can someone dig it up please?

Re: lost image can someone find for me?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:42 am
by Phillip
Hi Rob,

I don't think these are the photos you posted but I found them in my collection.
They came from a sale site when PAPILLON [a Mk3] was for sale some time ago.

Papillon w rudder 2.jpg
PAPILLON with stern hung rudder.
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Papillon w rudder 1.jpg
PAPILLON's stern hung rudder.
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Re: lost image can someone find for me?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:35 pm
by Ianb
Interesting, I wonder why they made the mod. More space in the cockpit perhaps? Note that adding extra underwater surface further aft will effect the sail balance, although with a long keel boat this might not be significant. The change is to produce more lee helm/less weather helm.

Re: lost image can someone find for me?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:16 pm
by rob.lovelace
I saw one like that transom hung one on the Clarence R I. Grafton.
The one I posted was well done with a fin in front. it looked like an s&s rudder. The guy did it because Top Hats have a tendency to round up and broach when overpowered especially when under spinnaker. He was racing her though, and said it was a lot of work to do. I've heard a few Victorian racing people say the same thing about top hats.

Re: lost image can someone find for me?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:23 am
by Swift
Hi Rob

The images can be found here: http://www.tophatyachts.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=801

BTW I have been following your adventures in Bass Straight and up the East Coast, very impressive!

Keith

Re: lost image can someone find for me?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:44 am
by Phillip
Rob,

Can you remember the name of that Mark 0?

Re: lost image can someone find for me?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:07 am
by rob.lovelace
thanks Kieth that's the one, my plan was to sail to the islands and back to Victoria to work for a few months to finance the same trip next year as I intend not to spend another winter south, but now I'm playing with the idea of hard standing for the cyclone season fly home and work some then continuing around over the top and do the loop. But things change day to day and lots depend on $$$ which I have very little. so who knows.

Hi Phil, can't remember her name, she was out of New Haven Vic. and had done a bit of island hopping in bass strait. Very nice boat, cold moulded, and heavily rigged.