Model Differences - Outboard Wells.

Model Differences - Outboard Wells.

Postby karl010203 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:44 am

Hi All,

I was just clicking through boats for sale and discovered a very tidy Mark 1, for sale in Tasmania.

Looking at the photos though it got me thinking... this boat had a flush deck all the way to the transom, ie no outboard well.

What's the deal with the different models and outboard wells.

I was of the belief that even those with inboards had wells? Or is this only some models?

Anyone that doesn't have an outboard well?
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Re: Model Differences - Outboard Wells.

Postby bearmcnally » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:35 pm

Hi Karl

Egret II, MK I, remember the prettiest marks of all :lol: has an inboard no well,But did have a removeable panel in the transom till I glassed it in.


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Re: Model Differences - Outboard Wells.

Postby Marinka » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:24 pm

fairly certain that only the Mark 2 and 3 had outboard wells. None of the Mark 1's did - Phillip, is that right? Cheers
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Re: Model Differences - Outboard Wells.

Postby Dolphin » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:46 pm

I raced on a Top Hat on Sydney Harbour "Kalinda" and it had a vee section cut in the transom for the outboard. When not in use the outboard was lifted out and stored in the Stbd cockpit locker.
My Mk 3 has a glassed in well with two 40mm dia drains in it for the cockpit. A bit deeper and it could be a good fish keeper.
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Re: Model Differences - Outboard Wells.

Postby Phillip » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:07 pm

Hi All,

Yes the Mk1 had the removable transom to allow for the fitting of an outboard motor, even if fitted with an inboard. :D

Whereas the Mk 2 & 3's had the cut out well for the outboard where no inboard was fitted when built, but all had a fixed transom.

I do believe that the well at the hull was cut out in each boat as an individual bit of work, ie they are not all the same! :o I seem to remember an earlier post on the old site mentioning this problem in regards to getting a replacement plug for the bottom of the well. Anybody remember that post?

Now as to the Mk0 timber boats, I have no idea, as these were all built for racing and there may be difference between all of them and the survivors may have been altered over time as well. Best example of alterations was the Mk0 that was for sale in Tasmania earlier in the year, looked like a Mk3 and the agent advertized it as such :shock: .

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Re: Model Differences - Outboard Wells.

Postby karl010203 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:37 pm

Phillip I do know that the plugs, and hence wells are all different sizes after trying to buy one of Shaun a while back, was quite different dimensions.

So in some cases where they had inboards then, the wells were not cut out?

Anyone able to comment on how well the outboards work on the transom, I imagine a little more prone to cavitation, but would get some of the noise out of the cockpit?
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Re: Model Differences - Outboard Wells.

Postby Miker » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:03 am

Karl, Dulcamara has an 8hp Tohatsu 4 stroke on a retractable transom bracket. This works well in most situations, although has no remote control, so you do need to sit back there to work the gear and throttle controls. It also works well in most conditions, providing there isn't too much weight forward when you hit stink boat wash. To raise it, you need to lean over the rail, pull a rope that's attached to the locking bar and pull up using the tiller handle. To lower, you pull the same rope and push the engine down into the water. It doesn't tilt at all, just stays in the vertical position and is locked on to the transom with a decent padlock that is let to go rusty. It can only be removed with bolt cutters or a saw once it's been there for a while, so security is not bad.

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Of course, I did say WORKS well, I think it looks shite though..... ;)

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Re: Model Differences - Outboard Wells.

Postby 8philip8 » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:53 pm

karl,
electric motor is the other option.
talk to the people at northbridge marina.
you can even test run on their hire boats :P
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Re: Model Differences - Outboard Wells.

Postby surrealbass » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:21 pm

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as you can see she is not looked after- mast has been out of her for quite a while
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here is another example, this is a cold moulded Tophat a couple of rows over from me
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Re: Model Differences - Outboard Wells.

Postby karl010203 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:36 pm

Thanks all...
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